lowermarshhammer
2:04 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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I was on a cheap flight in the 90's surrounded by the London Monarchs. Naturally they were all fucking MASSIVE units with necks the size of my torso who found standing up easier than sitting for most of the.flight.
Funniest bit was when a huge brother who was obviously seeing out the end of his career and was less than impressed with the whole easyJet experience had a ghetto rant.
I played in three THREE motherfucking Superbowls and it's come to this. MOTHERFUCKER.
I laughed. The huge white bloke sat next to me sniggered and then copped a ghetto volley from his team mate.
I would imagine most of those lads are in either in wheelchairs or dead from steroid abuse by now.
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ironsofcanada
1:14 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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Lato 12:26 Mon Dec 24
Sorry, I was being a little sarcastic. The origin of food words is part of what I do professionally. So it is what came to the top of my head.
Point is: there are a lot of terms in English that don't make sense, now. But they did at some point to enough people to make the term stick. It is very rare for language to purposefully obfuscate its own meaning.
Football was a general term for a bunch of games played with feet and hands, with a bunch of different rules (or no rules at all) across the British Isles before America was a thing. So if it is actually bewildering to you, looking at pre-colonial Great Britain will be more helpful than looking in America.
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Lato
12:26 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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ironsofcanada
Here is an answer
Why A Turkey Is Called A Turkey
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November 27, 200812:03 AM ET
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Robert Krulwich
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Here's the puzzle:
The bird we eat on Thanksgiving is an exclusively North American animal. It is found in the wild on no other continent but ours. It evolved here. So why is this American bird named for a Eurasian country?
To find out, I went back to an interview I did almost 30 years ago on NPR's Morning Edition with Mario Pei, a Columbia University professor of Romance languages, who died shortly after our conversation.
I return to his answer because it is still the best one available.
Professor Pei had two theories.
First, in the 1500s when the American bird first arrived in Great Britain, it was shipped in by merchants in the East, mostly from Constantinople (who'd brought the bird over from America).
Since it wholesaled out of Turkey, the British referred to it as a "Turkey coq." In fact, the British weren't particularly precise about products arriving from the East. Persian carpets were called "Turkey rugs." Indian flour was called "Turkey flour." Hungarian carpet bags were called "Turkey bags."
If a product came to London from the far side of the Danube, Londoners labeled it "Turkey" and that's what happened to the American bird. Thus, an American bird got the name Turkey-coq, which was then shortened to "Turkey."
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ironsofcanada
11:45 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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Lato 11:13 Mon Dec 24
To be seasonal, beats me why we still call a turkey, a turkey when we now know it does not come from there or ever did.
Sometimes English doesn't do what it "should".
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Lato
11:13 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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Beats me why they call it Football when they use their hands more than their feet!
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Far Cough
10:32 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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Sold, I love that Dolphins era with the great Don Shula as coach the Marks brothers receiving from another great, Dan Marino
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Eerie Descent
9:52 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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The 'American' bit should give you a clue.
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Northern Sold
9:47 Mon Dec 24
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My daughter loves my old 1980s no 13 Marino shirt I gave her a few years ago...said she wanted a Dolphins baseball cap when we was in Vegas a few years back....found one if those enormous Lids stores that sells 1000s of caps...only one Dolphins cap in store....i ask shop assistant if they have any out the back...we get laughed out of store....would not have happened mid 70s....:-(
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ironsofcanada
2:15 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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arsene york-hunt 2:02 Mon Dec 24
and
"Unlike football there is little in the way of skill, just running and catching."
Ha. There are a lot of sports I do not enjoy but I don't comment on them when I don't understand them.
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gph
2:13 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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Christians are too powerful to be thrown to lions nowadays.
Maybe Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons.
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ironsofcanada
2:08 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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arsene york-hunt 2:02 Mon Dec 24
Nothing to do with being more dangerous.
There are play makers that are great to watch, no doubt. Watching a guy like Cam Jordan fight through for a sack.
But also, if you know a bit about the game, it is slow enough that you can see coaches, players, out think the opposition in the moment and then execute.
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arsene york-hunt
2:02 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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The funny thing is that when you are talking to somebody who thinks its a great sport, they always go on about how it is more dangerous and physical than football. Well if that's the case why not stage throwing Christians to lions, bare knuckle boxing, or even motor racing and sit there waiting for somebody to be killed.
it is a contrived and very imperfect game, with a total absence of activity for most of the time it takes. Unlike football there is little in the way of skill, just running and catching. The only attributes required for an american "football" player is to be obese and steroid fuelled.
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Takashi Miike
12:44 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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it would have been good seeing him play the game, the winger wade is currently trying to get in a team through the player development scheme they do for non college players. it's a long process
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East Auckland Hammer
12:33 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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Lomu wasn't all power.
Most people only remember the bump offs or the steam roller tramplings like Catt, but Lomu had a fantastic swerve and step.
A lot of the missed tackles you see on him are because he was so quick on his feet and a subtle (sometimes not so subtle), slight (sometimes not so slight), change of direction meant the tacklers hit him off balance, or just plain missed.
You watch his earlier sevens games on YouTube, and you'll see him step players way more than bash them.
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Takashi Miike
12:01 Mon Dec 24
Re: American football
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cough, I'm not saying he'd not have done well but as you know it's a lot more involved than just being a big lump. I've watched most of the redskins games this year and peterson is very similar to riggo, I just hope the cunts in charge give him another year
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Far Cough
11:46 Sun Dec 23
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You sure Mike? Lomu ran the 100 metres in 10.7
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Takashi Miike
11:43 Sun Dec 23
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I know ribbons is classed as a power/fullback but he was a top college track runner. he was different to the usual powerbacks
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Takashi Miike
11:41 Sun Dec 23
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I'm not sure he had the athleticism of someone like riggins or brown, more like a power type back like bettis. it was tough bringing him down
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Far Cough
11:25 Sun Dec 23
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Diesel was a great running back but I think Lomu could have been as good as Jim Brown
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zebthecat
11:23 Sun Dec 23
Re: American football
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Far Cough 11:18 Sun Dec 23
He would been something different. Almost a throwback to John Riggins.
Closest we got the real pros was making the second round proper of the challenge cup (albeit with a couple of ringers) and somehow making the Middlesex 7s finals day. I was out concussed but my brother got changed next to Gavin Hastings. Needless to say we got stuffed out of sight.
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